The UN General Assembly has voted to expel all Jews from Jerusalem's Old City, home to Judaism’s holiest sites, and hand it over to what it calls the “State of Palestine.”
“I will bless those who bless you, but whoever curses you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” - Genesis 12:3 TLV
May I never be on the wrong side of this🙏🏻
Jesus — Yeshua is Jewish.
Read all of Malachi 3 — really all of Bible, the Old and New and please be careful when you presume to speak for Him. He knows every single soul individually, and I pray for reverence for Him, mercy for all, and repentance for all.
“For I am ADONAI. I do not change, So you, children of Jacob, are not consumed.”
“Then those who revere ADONAI spoke with each other, and ADONAI took notice and heard, and a scroll of remembrance was written before Him, for those who revere ADONAI, even those who esteem His Name. “So they shall be Mine,”—says ADONAI-Tzva’ot—“ in the day I make My own special possession. So I will spare them, as one spares his son serving him. Then you will return and distinguish between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve Him.” - Malachi 3:6,16-18 TLV
Thus says ADONAI-Tzva’ot, ‘In those days it will come to pass that ten men from every language of the nations will grasp the corner of the garment of a Jew saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.”’” - Zechariah 8:23 TLV
Me too! It wouldn’t bode well for us if God were as fickle as we humans.
My guess is it’s about listening to others without being like the Bereans and searching Scripture and also, appealing in a sense, to pride on some level.
Read Ephesians — no boasting for what we are or do, all grace — and Romans. For example, Romans 11.
“I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected His people whom He knew beforehand. Or do you not know what the Scripture says about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel?”
“But if some of the branches were broken off and you—being a wild olive—were grafted in among them and became a partaker of the root of the olive tree with its richness, do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, it is not you who support the root but the root supports you. You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” True enough. They were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but fear— for if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will He spare you.” - Romans 11:1-2,17-21 TLV
I’d copy and paste the whole thing, but encourage everyone to read all of Romans 11 — all of Romans😉 and pray for the peace of Jerusalem, which we are also told to do. 🙏🏻♥️
"So, is the Abrahamic covenant still in operation?
It is still in operation in the sense that it has been fulfilled. The promise has been realized, and God has kept the promise that He gave to Abraham. And this is why, for example, Paul says in Galatians 3:13–14 that Christ became a curse for us in order that the blessings of the covenant that were promised to Abraham might now come to the Gentiles. I think the thing for us to understand is that the Abrahamic covenant is fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
Paul makes the point in Galatians that no matter our nationality—whether we are Jews or Gentiles—the covenant fulfillment to which we look is Jesus Christ Himself. The New Testament does not teach that there is one covenant for the physical seed of Abraham and another covenant for those who are not the physical seed of Abraham, as though there were two tracks of salvation being provided in the Bible. This is the importance of Paul emphasizing the way in which Christ fulfills the covenant by becoming a curse so that all may experience the blessings of the Abrahamic promise."
As sure as the stars are fixed in their places in the heavens, as the oceans are contained by His Command, so are God's Eternal Promises to His Beloved People, Israel.
Well said. Some patsy who fancies himself a teacher of biblical manhood (so many of those types on Substack) grudgingly agreed with a point I had made about the OT an NT God being the same. He could not resist, however warning ppl that I am a “Judaizing heretic”. (As far as he remembers, he said).
Despite every major non-Calvinist scholar that I know of decrying it, Replacement theology just won’t die the death it deserves.
I've been naive, having grown up in the Plymouth Brethren Church and being surrounded by those non-Calvinist preachers and scholars, I had no idea how prevalent replacement theology was. I don't even like calling it that. It has such a clinical connotation. I'm just really shocked at what's happening.
The serpent continues to attack the Woman crowned with 12 stars, who gave birth to the Messiah. This is why antisemitism is endemic and often epidemic among even believers. Its origin is Supra-human. We will not overcome it because its source is not us. It is like fire ants in Florida, You don’t get rid of them by just laying down new sod. Making Christians hate Jews is a primary occupation of the enemy. And this is because he knows that God’s goal is the regathering of his people. As long as putative followers of Jesus oppress them, The vast majority of Jews will not countenance that Jesus of Nazareth could be the Jewish Messiah. Why should they? But God has his ways and his plan.
Jer 33:19-26. Just a little paraphrasing here. Thus says Jehovah, if you can break my covenant regarding the day and my covenant regarding the night — THEN my covenant with the house of David and the house of Levi will be annulled……..IF you can break my covenant regarding day and night and IF I have not established the statutes regarding the heavens and the earth……THEN I will reject the seed of David and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob …..
And Paul’s words in Rom 11 For now, hardness of heart has come upon Israel UNTIL the fullness of the gentiles have come in.
Some of us see clearly in the scriptures that Jerusalem will be made a burdensome stone to the nations and will be surrounded by all the armies of the nations. As they are destroying the Jews there, Jesus, the Jewish messiah, (the rider on the white horse in Rev 19) will come with the armies of heaven to the mount of Olives which will be split from east to west when He again puts his feet upon it. Through this valley the vastly outnumbered Jews will escape - as they escaped through the Red Sea (when they were Jehovahs bait to draw Pharoahs army into the sea) — As Yeshua with the heavenly armies destroys the armies of all the nations of the earth.
I’m not a bloodthirsty fellow but this makes my heart sing. The Jews and the nation of Israel can not be expected to tolerate constant attack. No other nation is expected to endure it. Looks like we may get a relatively short reprieve soon as the man of lawlessness is revealed. Anyway I hope it is soon.
There are many other details, some of which we don’t understand yet, or we get the chronology wrong, perhaps. But, in general, nations and events are certainly lining up as some of us have expected. Then the sons of God will be manifested - and all of creation will enter into the glorious liberty of the sons of God as the restoration of all things begins. Come quickly Lord Jesus.
These are fantastic verses and you've given a great description from a Christian perspective. I'm realizing how many misconceptions there are and how important it is to dispel those misconceptions.
oh my oh my this is the first I heard of this nooz an' my heart just sank a few feet! THANK YOU Karen fer all yer beautiful words--I see the "consensus" in the comments an' again--this here is one of the more friendly spaces in Stack land fer supportin' the jooish nation an' its people...an' (fer that matter) Christian zionists too. Many of us chews come down hard on Israel (crittercizin' it)--much like I do the current "regime" were under in the USA... but I'll just say Am Israel Chai--may it live thru this catastrophe an' please may the remainin' holy sites & relics not already destroyed by those that hate us /our people--stay safe an' unharmed... I hate the erasure of ALL history (dingit)... it's happenin' right now... My heart is full today... grateful fer you Karen, mortified at this "decision"... while others cheer...
Am Israel Chai, Amen. Writing this piece and seeing some of the responses made me realize how many misconceptions there are. It's been a bit shocking for me.
🙏🏼😊 (merci--I too am "thinkin' positive" best I can!) Yes, so many misconceptions an' it's like that Whack-a-Mole game (dubious concept fer those of us that like all critters, but the silly metaphor sticks!) where just when ya think ya've put out one fire based on one misunderstandin'--biiing! an'nuther pops up...
yestiddy I read some bible "expurt" sayin' all joos are "edomites" (some kinda relation to Essau I think?--I had ta look it up as that was a new one addin' to the Hammites, Shemmites, Stalagtites (ha!)--ANYTHING but Israelites which of course connects chews ta the holy land. These cocksure "misconceivers" somehow all manage ta cite the same source--The New Testament (various)--an' invent more whoppers than Burger King!
So I "whack some moles" (not the real kind of course!) but there are so many it's near impossible ta do much--so I wonder how come they just proliferate an' so fast too? Folks that were impartial even a few months ago now have new ammo an' they're firin' it off---eeks!
Christians are God’s Chosen People according to Christianity. That’s why it’s the New Covenant.
These people aren’t Hebrews. These are Eastern Europeans who have to ban DNA testing outside specific courtroom circumstances because it would be too devastating to their ethno-national mythology not to.
They are horrendous to Christians under their jurisdiction. The Christian Quarter and the Armenian Quarter of Jerusalem are being eradicated. Roving gangs of supremacist youth and ethno-nationalist lunatics regularly spit on & attack Christians, particularly holy men and women. “Cultural ministers” are on tape demanding crucifixes be hidden from view. Churches are attacked on a near-constant basis (including some of the oldest in existence).
All of this is tolerated or ignored because of some wildly mistaken notion that humans and not God can bring on the Apocalypse simply by arranging for a few preconditions—the hubris! These people hate you. They call you Goyim. They call you future slaves. They speak openly of pitting the Muslim world & Asia against the Christian world & Europe/North America for the purpose of ruling over the ashes.
“Jew” wasn’t even a word when the Bible was being written. Not for over 1000 years. The Scofield Bible is edited by them for the very purpose of fooling Christians and diverting them from the Lord’s work to pro bono advocacy & apologia for the Synagogue of Satan. And don’t tell me they aren’t “those who say they are but are not.” Their symbol is the Star of Remphan.
This is only to address this one angle, leaving aside their long history of absolutely heinous & mendacious behavior and their incessant attacks & spying on America. It’s to say nothing of Epstein, or stolen uranium & tech, or the USS Liberty, or PROMIS, et cetera.
Has anyone noticed that the Establishment creatures, and many of the rest of the very worst people on Earth, seem to support this entity with every fiber of their being?
And this is exactly what I am talking about. No one is perfect, we have all fallen short of the Glory of God. But why this obsession with Israel? For every reason I have said. Thank you for being an example of the propaganda and lies that are spread.
Have you lived in Israel? Have you lived in a Muslim country, under Sharia Law? Have you talked to Arabs and Christians who live in Israel? Have you talked to dissidents in Gaza who pray for Israel to win this war? Have you talked to those in Iran who pray the same, who stand with Israel as they are tortured and killed for speaking out against the Iranian regime? In Israel you are free to protest, to speak out against the government.
Do you realize that Christians are the most persecuted group in the world--by Islamists, not Jews, that is ludicrous. I can assure you, if you lived in a village in Egypt as I have done, you would realize and appreciate the freedom you would have in Israel. I pity you and people like you. You are really lost, and you want to be. You want to believe the lies. I only answer you so that a testimony stands here of what you have said, as we head further toward exactly what you are calling for: the extermination of Jews.
Ian, evidently you haven’t taken Mindi’s advice to read Romans 11–or for that matter much of the Bible at all—with a mind and heart open to God’s Word. Nor have you read without prejudice Karen’s wonderfully explicit expository pieces on the history and plight of God’s chosen people, Israel. If you are a Christ follower, part of His Church, then you like those of us who truly proclaim Jesus as Lord are “grafted” into God’s family. Israel does not get lopped off just because you/we are grafted in. Each individual will have a choice to choose or reject Christ, but God has clearly stated that Israel is His, and you’d have to be blind to not see His supernatural protection over them since bringing them HOME to the land HE HAS GIVEN THEM. You are foolish to believe God has broken His promises to Israel…and woe to anyone who goes against His people…!✝️🙏
Once I re-read all Biblical prophecies in this light—Israel is the center of the world, and God’s promises will be fulfilled and upheld (ie The Jews have not been “replaced “) —a whole lot more made sense!!! Yes, hard to tell what is a dual prophecy or not. But I believe a future actual Kingdom of the Jews will be established by Jesus Christ who will rule from a third Temple with “a rod of iron.” 🤷🏼♀️
Thank you, Karen. I am always taken aback by the blindness caused by Satan. The unbelieving world is usually open to his lies as they do not have discernment but those who claim to be christians have actually chosen to believe Satan over God. I pity them for they will answer for it one day. God is not mocked. I keep repeating Heb 10:31 "It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God." I rest in that. In the meantime I continue to pray for Israel and peace of Jerusalem, God's own city.
The apostle Paul said a true Jew was one circumcised of the heart and NOT of the flesh (Romans 2:29). So I disagree the physical Jews are God's chosen people. They are simply symbolic of God's true people (ie spirit led individuals scattered all over the world). There is no physical group that can characterize what it means to be God's chosen people, and that applies to any denomination of Christianity too. In the last couple of years, I have started deeper investigations into the origins of 1st century Christianity. Here is one recent article I wrote https://www.writepharmaparablepublishing.com/p/the-parable-of-why-do-i-write-parables and I challenge you to read it, Karen, and tell me where my thinking is wrong, if you think my take is in error.
"It takes maturity and wisdom to hear Father God declare what is literal versus metaphor, inward versus outward, individual versus communal, absolute versus relative, or proper mixture of the different sides to things. I have the gift of parables, and both write and teach like the Gnostics.
" In fact, supernatural symbolic parables are so important in teaching spiritual truths that I believe Holy Spirit has revealed to me a secret about the early church and time of the apostles."
I don't need to read more. You don't have some special revelation. Just like all the others who dream of building a cultish following because you know some "secret" nobody else knows.
I go by the clear simple truths of the Bible. No need to read or discus it further.
Karen, can you or any of your readers describe who God is.....living, dead, a thought, a spirit, or just a blind belief that this being lives in heaven and shines brightly over the planet earth and the universe. Has anyone ever return from heaven and told humanity how wonderful it is.
Well those words of mine that you quoted were about 25% into the full article, so it seems you have 25% tolerance for different views and opinions....but somehow I "sense" you read to that point quickly, and your motivation for reading was simply to find something that I wrote to: 1) criticize me, 2) gaslight me, and 3) dismiss me. Is my special revelation correct in this instance? If it is, then is it so impossible to consider my intuition might be correct in other ways? Logical revelation, logically arrived at, as Spock might say.
I notice there was no logical argument, or even some counter scripture (as I quote scripture in that post) in your comment. Just a "faith" declaration that I don't have special revelation, but you do, of course, because you just "know" that your "clear simple truths of the Bible" are 100% accurate and true.
What you fail to realize (either intentionally or perhaps subconsciously) is that everybody DOES follow their own intuition to determine what is objective truth out of their subjective "holy" books. Our minds are polluted from indoctrination, religious training, church, books we're read, others' opinion, other authorities like parents, etc.... and we are brainwashed on so many levels that it hurts to admit it. So, we don't want to admit it and run away in our minds. Again, I understand you, from the days when I thought like you. But you don't understand me.
Let's try an experiment, if you are willing. Again, here is my Christ honoring song parable https://www.writepharmaparablepublishing.com/p/the-parable-of-truth-brings-us-back and I quote many scriptures there that prove the traditional idea of Trinity is false. I can only assume you believe in Trinity, as most Christians do. So, as a test of your openness to truth challenge from your own holy book, I suggest read that post and the scriptures and logic I use to make my points. And then please tell me where my thinking is wrong, because these days, I admit when I am wrong, so I can continue to grow.
I'm sorry but the Bible is clear. God made very clear promises to Abraham and throughout the Old Testament. They are not all just symbols. We disagree.
Your response came within minutes so I KNOW you did not read my rather long article. So, yes I agree that we disagree, about many things. I understand your way of thinking, as I used to think like you. But, respectfully, you cannot understand my way of thinking, because the reverse is not true.
As an example, I might say, since I live in Canada: I have traveled through the United States and drove on to tour Mexico, so I KNOW these countries truthfully exist. I can speak from personal experience about the truth about these nations. At least I can do so better than a Canadian who has NEVER left Canada, and refuses to even consider evidence about countries south of Canada, like America and Mexico, refusing to consider these landmasses are true.
How is this closed-minded thinking any different from vaxers who REFUSE to consider ANY contrary evidence (from the government oftentimes) that vaccines are NOT safe and effective???
I did NOT say in that article, that ALL Bible characters are symbols. I specifically mention Jesus Christ was a real person and even rose from the dead. But, obviously, you did not even read OR consider my article. Again, I am just curious how this is different from an avid C-19 believer refusing to even read some evidence that all is NOT as it appears in the vaxer's comfortable truth bubble (cage really)......
I AM not your enemy, and perhaps this other post might show we probably agree about more than we realize https://www.writepharmaparablepublishing.com/p/the-parable-of-truth-brings-us-back and I doubt an anti-Christ would put such a post on his substack. :-) Although, I must admit, that post shows the traditional idea of Trinity is not entirely correct, but at least I do so with lots of scripture. I hope you see through that one, as you see through the covid crap.
I watched the speeches and it felt like I was seeing prophecy come true. But the UN has no real power. They will have to get the US to agree to anything. God is working out his plan and that includes the punishment of Israel, but Christians should not cheer for Israel's enemies. Eventually, after they are attacked, Israel will confess that Jesus is Lord and will worship Him in Zion. God wins.
Yes, it's quite chilling to see prophecy coming true. And yet, as you point out, the US is the one thing stopping all of this and that's why I devoted so much time to this topic, including Christians Nationalism and Christ is King movements to show the dangers. I steer clear of "punishment of Israel" as this entire world is a horrible mess and I look to the redemption side of things. Through my world travels and meeting so many people of myriad faiths and cultures, I came to realize it is not my place to judge anyone, I leave that in God's hands. This is just me, personally. That's why I said people have all sorts of interpretations of the last days and I didn't want to get into all of that. Certain things are clear to me from the Bible, others I leave in God's hands. The danger is that Christians would say, well, there's nothing we can do about it, in fact we welcome the destruction of Israel since it's God's will unfolding. I don't believe that at all. I think there are deeper mysteries here that we do not understand.
How one can continue to know innocent children are being annihilated and revert to a very old book in order to turn a blind eye is incomprehensible to me. The Bible is full of quotes that little children should never be harmed. They are not the unfortunate collateral damage of war. They are precious innocent children of God and they are being brutally tortured every single day. That is Satanic. Not one hair on one child’s head should ever have been touched. The footage we have all seen of these precious children’s suffering will never leave our minds. It’s unthinkable pain for even an adult to withstand. And the little ones who have survived will never live normally.
And yet the Israelis continue about October 7th. Both sides will be punished for what they put the innocent through.
Israel is committing genocide! Yet you defend them! I am a follower of Jesus Christ and under his teachings I must love all people as he loves me, I must even love even my enemies. What Israel is doing in Palestine is WRONG. They have murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children and they are an illegal occupying force which, under the law, means that they don’t even have a right to self defence.
Talking of self defence, if you believe that the atrocities committed on 7th October could happen under the security forces noses for hours without any response, you are a gullible fool. It was allowed and facilitated so that the world would turn a blind eye to the Palestinian holocaust.
Why do religious followers insist on division among humans? Why not accept we are all humans, we are all equal in front of our creator, we therefore respect one another’s right to life and living?
Constantly banging on about this group, that group is wasting energy.
Millions of humans around the world don’t even recognise your “god”, or they recognise the concept as just another of their gods, what does this tell you?
The "chosen ones" are no better than we the people. I have had first hand experience as a young kid on how arrogant, obnoxious elitist Jews treated my parents and Hopewell Junction, NY townspeople in the '40's and '59's, and I don't believe they have changed at all since then.
I find this entire situation extremely complicated and confusing. I'm guessing that is done purposefully, but I cannot fall on either side as strongly as you have whilstever things like this exist: https://thecrowhouse.com/thegreatdeception.html
“I will bless those who bless you, but whoever curses you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” - Genesis 12:3 TLV
May I never be on the wrong side of this🙏🏻
Jesus — Yeshua is Jewish.
Read all of Malachi 3 — really all of Bible, the Old and New and please be careful when you presume to speak for Him. He knows every single soul individually, and I pray for reverence for Him, mercy for all, and repentance for all.
“For I am ADONAI. I do not change, So you, children of Jacob, are not consumed.”
“Then those who revere ADONAI spoke with each other, and ADONAI took notice and heard, and a scroll of remembrance was written before Him, for those who revere ADONAI, even those who esteem His Name. “So they shall be Mine,”—says ADONAI-Tzva’ot—“ in the day I make My own special possession. So I will spare them, as one spares his son serving him. Then you will return and distinguish between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve Him.” - Malachi 3:6,16-18 TLV
Yes. I am a little shocked at how many Christians think God no longer has a covenant with Israel and his people the Jews.
Just read this this morning 🙏🏻♥️
Thus says ADONAI-Tzva’ot, ‘In those days it will come to pass that ten men from every language of the nations will grasp the corner of the garment of a Jew saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.”’” - Zechariah 8:23 TLV
Me too! It wouldn’t bode well for us if God were as fickle as we humans.
My guess is it’s about listening to others without being like the Bereans and searching Scripture and also, appealing in a sense, to pride on some level.
Read Ephesians — no boasting for what we are or do, all grace — and Romans. For example, Romans 11.
“I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected His people whom He knew beforehand. Or do you not know what the Scripture says about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel?”
“But if some of the branches were broken off and you—being a wild olive—were grafted in among them and became a partaker of the root of the olive tree with its richness, do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, it is not you who support the root but the root supports you. You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” True enough. They were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but fear— for if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will He spare you.” - Romans 11:1-2,17-21 TLV
I’d copy and paste the whole thing, but encourage everyone to read all of Romans 11 — all of Romans😉 and pray for the peace of Jerusalem, which we are also told to do. 🙏🏻♥️
Amen! Do you know of my dad, Dave Hunt, and The Berean Call? https://www.thebereancall.org/newsletters
I’ve read about your parents in your writing, but wow!! Thank you for sharing!! You are blessed!
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Excerpted from Sinclair Ferguson
"So, is the Abrahamic covenant still in operation?
It is still in operation in the sense that it has been fulfilled. The promise has been realized, and God has kept the promise that He gave to Abraham. And this is why, for example, Paul says in Galatians 3:13–14 that Christ became a curse for us in order that the blessings of the covenant that were promised to Abraham might now come to the Gentiles. I think the thing for us to understand is that the Abrahamic covenant is fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
Paul makes the point in Galatians that no matter our nationality—whether we are Jews or Gentiles—the covenant fulfillment to which we look is Jesus Christ Himself. The New Testament does not teach that there is one covenant for the physical seed of Abraham and another covenant for those who are not the physical seed of Abraham, as though there were two tracks of salvation being provided in the Bible. This is the importance of Paul emphasizing the way in which Christ fulfills the covenant by becoming a curse so that all may experience the blessings of the Abrahamic promise."
As sure as the stars are fixed in their places in the heavens, as the oceans are contained by His Command, so are God's Eternal Promises to His Beloved People, Israel.
🇮🇱 AM YISRAEL CHAI 🇮🇱
Amen
Well said. Some patsy who fancies himself a teacher of biblical manhood (so many of those types on Substack) grudgingly agreed with a point I had made about the OT an NT God being the same. He could not resist, however warning ppl that I am a “Judaizing heretic”. (As far as he remembers, he said).
Despite every major non-Calvinist scholar that I know of decrying it, Replacement theology just won’t die the death it deserves.
I've been naive, having grown up in the Plymouth Brethren Church and being surrounded by those non-Calvinist preachers and scholars, I had no idea how prevalent replacement theology was. I don't even like calling it that. It has such a clinical connotation. I'm just really shocked at what's happening.
The serpent continues to attack the Woman crowned with 12 stars, who gave birth to the Messiah. This is why antisemitism is endemic and often epidemic among even believers. Its origin is Supra-human. We will not overcome it because its source is not us. It is like fire ants in Florida, You don’t get rid of them by just laying down new sod. Making Christians hate Jews is a primary occupation of the enemy. And this is because he knows that God’s goal is the regathering of his people. As long as putative followers of Jesus oppress them, The vast majority of Jews will not countenance that Jesus of Nazareth could be the Jewish Messiah. Why should they? But God has his ways and his plan.
Jer 33:19-26. Just a little paraphrasing here. Thus says Jehovah, if you can break my covenant regarding the day and my covenant regarding the night — THEN my covenant with the house of David and the house of Levi will be annulled……..IF you can break my covenant regarding day and night and IF I have not established the statutes regarding the heavens and the earth……THEN I will reject the seed of David and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob …..
And Paul’s words in Rom 11 For now, hardness of heart has come upon Israel UNTIL the fullness of the gentiles have come in.
Some of us see clearly in the scriptures that Jerusalem will be made a burdensome stone to the nations and will be surrounded by all the armies of the nations. As they are destroying the Jews there, Jesus, the Jewish messiah, (the rider on the white horse in Rev 19) will come with the armies of heaven to the mount of Olives which will be split from east to west when He again puts his feet upon it. Through this valley the vastly outnumbered Jews will escape - as they escaped through the Red Sea (when they were Jehovahs bait to draw Pharoahs army into the sea) — As Yeshua with the heavenly armies destroys the armies of all the nations of the earth.
I’m not a bloodthirsty fellow but this makes my heart sing. The Jews and the nation of Israel can not be expected to tolerate constant attack. No other nation is expected to endure it. Looks like we may get a relatively short reprieve soon as the man of lawlessness is revealed. Anyway I hope it is soon.
There are many other details, some of which we don’t understand yet, or we get the chronology wrong, perhaps. But, in general, nations and events are certainly lining up as some of us have expected. Then the sons of God will be manifested - and all of creation will enter into the glorious liberty of the sons of God as the restoration of all things begins. Come quickly Lord Jesus.
These are fantastic verses and you've given a great description from a Christian perspective. I'm realizing how many misconceptions there are and how important it is to dispel those misconceptions.
oh my oh my this is the first I heard of this nooz an' my heart just sank a few feet! THANK YOU Karen fer all yer beautiful words--I see the "consensus" in the comments an' again--this here is one of the more friendly spaces in Stack land fer supportin' the jooish nation an' its people...an' (fer that matter) Christian zionists too. Many of us chews come down hard on Israel (crittercizin' it)--much like I do the current "regime" were under in the USA... but I'll just say Am Israel Chai--may it live thru this catastrophe an' please may the remainin' holy sites & relics not already destroyed by those that hate us /our people--stay safe an' unharmed... I hate the erasure of ALL history (dingit)... it's happenin' right now... My heart is full today... grateful fer you Karen, mortified at this "decision"... while others cheer...
Am Israel Chai, Amen. Writing this piece and seeing some of the responses made me realize how many misconceptions there are. It's been a bit shocking for me.
🙏🏼😊 (merci--I too am "thinkin' positive" best I can!) Yes, so many misconceptions an' it's like that Whack-a-Mole game (dubious concept fer those of us that like all critters, but the silly metaphor sticks!) where just when ya think ya've put out one fire based on one misunderstandin'--biiing! an'nuther pops up...
yestiddy I read some bible "expurt" sayin' all joos are "edomites" (some kinda relation to Essau I think?--I had ta look it up as that was a new one addin' to the Hammites, Shemmites, Stalagtites (ha!)--ANYTHING but Israelites which of course connects chews ta the holy land. These cocksure "misconceivers" somehow all manage ta cite the same source--The New Testament (various)--an' invent more whoppers than Burger King!
So I "whack some moles" (not the real kind of course!) but there are so many it's near impossible ta do much--so I wonder how come they just proliferate an' so fast too? Folks that were impartial even a few months ago now have new ammo an' they're firin' it off---eeks!
Christians are God’s Chosen People according to Christianity. That’s why it’s the New Covenant.
These people aren’t Hebrews. These are Eastern Europeans who have to ban DNA testing outside specific courtroom circumstances because it would be too devastating to their ethno-national mythology not to.
They are horrendous to Christians under their jurisdiction. The Christian Quarter and the Armenian Quarter of Jerusalem are being eradicated. Roving gangs of supremacist youth and ethno-nationalist lunatics regularly spit on & attack Christians, particularly holy men and women. “Cultural ministers” are on tape demanding crucifixes be hidden from view. Churches are attacked on a near-constant basis (including some of the oldest in existence).
All of this is tolerated or ignored because of some wildly mistaken notion that humans and not God can bring on the Apocalypse simply by arranging for a few preconditions—the hubris! These people hate you. They call you Goyim. They call you future slaves. They speak openly of pitting the Muslim world & Asia against the Christian world & Europe/North America for the purpose of ruling over the ashes.
“Jew” wasn’t even a word when the Bible was being written. Not for over 1000 years. The Scofield Bible is edited by them for the very purpose of fooling Christians and diverting them from the Lord’s work to pro bono advocacy & apologia for the Synagogue of Satan. And don’t tell me they aren’t “those who say they are but are not.” Their symbol is the Star of Remphan.
This is only to address this one angle, leaving aside their long history of absolutely heinous & mendacious behavior and their incessant attacks & spying on America. It’s to say nothing of Epstein, or stolen uranium & tech, or the USS Liberty, or PROMIS, et cetera.
Has anyone noticed that the Establishment creatures, and many of the rest of the very worst people on Earth, seem to support this entity with every fiber of their being?
And this is exactly what I am talking about. No one is perfect, we have all fallen short of the Glory of God. But why this obsession with Israel? For every reason I have said. Thank you for being an example of the propaganda and lies that are spread.
Have you lived in Israel? Have you lived in a Muslim country, under Sharia Law? Have you talked to Arabs and Christians who live in Israel? Have you talked to dissidents in Gaza who pray for Israel to win this war? Have you talked to those in Iran who pray the same, who stand with Israel as they are tortured and killed for speaking out against the Iranian regime? In Israel you are free to protest, to speak out against the government.
Do you realize that Christians are the most persecuted group in the world--by Islamists, not Jews, that is ludicrous. I can assure you, if you lived in a village in Egypt as I have done, you would realize and appreciate the freedom you would have in Israel. I pity you and people like you. You are really lost, and you want to be. You want to believe the lies. I only answer you so that a testimony stands here of what you have said, as we head further toward exactly what you are calling for: the extermination of Jews.
Ian, evidently you haven’t taken Mindi’s advice to read Romans 11–or for that matter much of the Bible at all—with a mind and heart open to God’s Word. Nor have you read without prejudice Karen’s wonderfully explicit expository pieces on the history and plight of God’s chosen people, Israel. If you are a Christ follower, part of His Church, then you like those of us who truly proclaim Jesus as Lord are “grafted” into God’s family. Israel does not get lopped off just because you/we are grafted in. Each individual will have a choice to choose or reject Christ, but God has clearly stated that Israel is His, and you’d have to be blind to not see His supernatural protection over them since bringing them HOME to the land HE HAS GIVEN THEM. You are foolish to believe God has broken His promises to Israel…and woe to anyone who goes against His people…!✝️🙏
Once I re-read all Biblical prophecies in this light—Israel is the center of the world, and God’s promises will be fulfilled and upheld (ie The Jews have not been “replaced “) —a whole lot more made sense!!! Yes, hard to tell what is a dual prophecy or not. But I believe a future actual Kingdom of the Jews will be established by Jesus Christ who will rule from a third Temple with “a rod of iron.” 🤷🏼♀️
Thank you, Karen. I am always taken aback by the blindness caused by Satan. The unbelieving world is usually open to his lies as they do not have discernment but those who claim to be christians have actually chosen to believe Satan over God. I pity them for they will answer for it one day. God is not mocked. I keep repeating Heb 10:31 "It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God." I rest in that. In the meantime I continue to pray for Israel and peace of Jerusalem, God's own city.
Thank you. Writing this piece and seeing some of the responses has been eye-opening.
Another good one. Thank you for your labor of love and sharing the results with us.
I intend to add more later but must take care of a few things first.
The apostle Paul said a true Jew was one circumcised of the heart and NOT of the flesh (Romans 2:29). So I disagree the physical Jews are God's chosen people. They are simply symbolic of God's true people (ie spirit led individuals scattered all over the world). There is no physical group that can characterize what it means to be God's chosen people, and that applies to any denomination of Christianity too. In the last couple of years, I have started deeper investigations into the origins of 1st century Christianity. Here is one recent article I wrote https://www.writepharmaparablepublishing.com/p/the-parable-of-why-do-i-write-parables and I challenge you to read it, Karen, and tell me where my thinking is wrong, if you think my take is in error.
When you say things like:
"It takes maturity and wisdom to hear Father God declare what is literal versus metaphor, inward versus outward, individual versus communal, absolute versus relative, or proper mixture of the different sides to things. I have the gift of parables, and both write and teach like the Gnostics.
" In fact, supernatural symbolic parables are so important in teaching spiritual truths that I believe Holy Spirit has revealed to me a secret about the early church and time of the apostles."
I don't need to read more. You don't have some special revelation. Just like all the others who dream of building a cultish following because you know some "secret" nobody else knows.
I go by the clear simple truths of the Bible. No need to read or discus it further.
Karen, can you or any of your readers describe who God is.....living, dead, a thought, a spirit, or just a blind belief that this being lives in heaven and shines brightly over the planet earth and the universe. Has anyone ever return from heaven and told humanity how wonderful it is.
Well those words of mine that you quoted were about 25% into the full article, so it seems you have 25% tolerance for different views and opinions....but somehow I "sense" you read to that point quickly, and your motivation for reading was simply to find something that I wrote to: 1) criticize me, 2) gaslight me, and 3) dismiss me. Is my special revelation correct in this instance? If it is, then is it so impossible to consider my intuition might be correct in other ways? Logical revelation, logically arrived at, as Spock might say.
I notice there was no logical argument, or even some counter scripture (as I quote scripture in that post) in your comment. Just a "faith" declaration that I don't have special revelation, but you do, of course, because you just "know" that your "clear simple truths of the Bible" are 100% accurate and true.
What you fail to realize (either intentionally or perhaps subconsciously) is that everybody DOES follow their own intuition to determine what is objective truth out of their subjective "holy" books. Our minds are polluted from indoctrination, religious training, church, books we're read, others' opinion, other authorities like parents, etc.... and we are brainwashed on so many levels that it hurts to admit it. So, we don't want to admit it and run away in our minds. Again, I understand you, from the days when I thought like you. But you don't understand me.
Let's try an experiment, if you are willing. Again, here is my Christ honoring song parable https://www.writepharmaparablepublishing.com/p/the-parable-of-truth-brings-us-back and I quote many scriptures there that prove the traditional idea of Trinity is false. I can only assume you believe in Trinity, as most Christians do. So, as a test of your openness to truth challenge from your own holy book, I suggest read that post and the scriptures and logic I use to make my points. And then please tell me where my thinking is wrong, because these days, I admit when I am wrong, so I can continue to grow.
I'm sorry but the Bible is clear. God made very clear promises to Abraham and throughout the Old Testament. They are not all just symbols. We disagree.
Your response came within minutes so I KNOW you did not read my rather long article. So, yes I agree that we disagree, about many things. I understand your way of thinking, as I used to think like you. But, respectfully, you cannot understand my way of thinking, because the reverse is not true.
As an example, I might say, since I live in Canada: I have traveled through the United States and drove on to tour Mexico, so I KNOW these countries truthfully exist. I can speak from personal experience about the truth about these nations. At least I can do so better than a Canadian who has NEVER left Canada, and refuses to even consider evidence about countries south of Canada, like America and Mexico, refusing to consider these landmasses are true.
How is this closed-minded thinking any different from vaxers who REFUSE to consider ANY contrary evidence (from the government oftentimes) that vaccines are NOT safe and effective???
I did NOT say in that article, that ALL Bible characters are symbols. I specifically mention Jesus Christ was a real person and even rose from the dead. But, obviously, you did not even read OR consider my article. Again, I am just curious how this is different from an avid C-19 believer refusing to even read some evidence that all is NOT as it appears in the vaxer's comfortable truth bubble (cage really)......
I AM not your enemy, and perhaps this other post might show we probably agree about more than we realize https://www.writepharmaparablepublishing.com/p/the-parable-of-truth-brings-us-back and I doubt an anti-Christ would put such a post on his substack. :-) Although, I must admit, that post shows the traditional idea of Trinity is not entirely correct, but at least I do so with lots of scripture. I hope you see through that one, as you see through the covid crap.
That the Jews are Gods chosen people has been used as an excuse to cover the atrocities the State of Israel has committed over the years.
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Obviously a major divide between 'God's chosen people" and the State of Israel.
I watched the speeches and it felt like I was seeing prophecy come true. But the UN has no real power. They will have to get the US to agree to anything. God is working out his plan and that includes the punishment of Israel, but Christians should not cheer for Israel's enemies. Eventually, after they are attacked, Israel will confess that Jesus is Lord and will worship Him in Zion. God wins.
Yes, it's quite chilling to see prophecy coming true. And yet, as you point out, the US is the one thing stopping all of this and that's why I devoted so much time to this topic, including Christians Nationalism and Christ is King movements to show the dangers. I steer clear of "punishment of Israel" as this entire world is a horrible mess and I look to the redemption side of things. Through my world travels and meeting so many people of myriad faiths and cultures, I came to realize it is not my place to judge anyone, I leave that in God's hands. This is just me, personally. That's why I said people have all sorts of interpretations of the last days and I didn't want to get into all of that. Certain things are clear to me from the Bible, others I leave in God's hands. The danger is that Christians would say, well, there's nothing we can do about it, in fact we welcome the destruction of Israel since it's God's will unfolding. I don't believe that at all. I think there are deeper mysteries here that we do not understand.
I certainly don’t welcome it. I pray they will all repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
How one can continue to know innocent children are being annihilated and revert to a very old book in order to turn a blind eye is incomprehensible to me. The Bible is full of quotes that little children should never be harmed. They are not the unfortunate collateral damage of war. They are precious innocent children of God and they are being brutally tortured every single day. That is Satanic. Not one hair on one child’s head should ever have been touched. The footage we have all seen of these precious children’s suffering will never leave our minds. It’s unthinkable pain for even an adult to withstand. And the little ones who have survived will never live normally.
And yet the Israelis continue about October 7th. Both sides will be punished for what they put the innocent through.
Israel is committing genocide! Yet you defend them! I am a follower of Jesus Christ and under his teachings I must love all people as he loves me, I must even love even my enemies. What Israel is doing in Palestine is WRONG. They have murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children and they are an illegal occupying force which, under the law, means that they don’t even have a right to self defence.
Talking of self defence, if you believe that the atrocities committed on 7th October could happen under the security forces noses for hours without any response, you are a gullible fool. It was allowed and facilitated so that the world would turn a blind eye to the Palestinian holocaust.
Why do religious followers insist on division among humans? Why not accept we are all humans, we are all equal in front of our creator, we therefore respect one another’s right to life and living?
Constantly banging on about this group, that group is wasting energy.
Millions of humans around the world don’t even recognise your “god”, or they recognise the concept as just another of their gods, what does this tell you?
Grow up at last.
Karen. your petticoat is showing .... the bias is no longer just subtle ...
I once saw a little ditty which captivates the nub of your spiel; it went something like:
God loves everybody, but he loves us more. Hmmm!
Have a lovely day.
The "chosen ones" are no better than we the people. I have had first hand experience as a young kid on how arrogant, obnoxious elitist Jews treated my parents and Hopewell Junction, NY townspeople in the '40's and '59's, and I don't believe they have changed at all since then.
I find this entire situation extremely complicated and confusing. I'm guessing that is done purposefully, but I cannot fall on either side as strongly as you have whilstever things like this exist: https://thecrowhouse.com/thegreatdeception.html